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02/01/2011 01:00 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION


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01:01:37 PM Start
01:01:48 PM Presentation(s): Knik Arm Bridge & Toll Authority
01:37:45 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Mobility Coalition
02:08:49 PM Presentation(s): Port Mackenzie Rail Extension
02:37:10 PM Adjourn
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1. Knik Arm Bridge and Toll Authority Overview
2. Mobility Coalition Overview
3. Point McKenzie Rail Extension Overview
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                        February 1, 2011                                                                                        
                           1:01 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                             
 Representative Lance Pruitt, Vice Chair                                                                                        
 Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                      
 Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz                                                                                            
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
 Representative Pete Petersen                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Albert Kookesh, Chair                                                                                                  
 Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
 Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                            
 Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                           
 Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE TRANSPORTATION                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATIONS(S):  KNIK ARM BRIDGE & TOLL AUTHORITY                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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               ALASKA MOBILITY COALITION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
               PORT MACKENZIE RAIL EXTENSION                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL FOSTER, P.E., Chair                                                                                                     
Knik Arm Bridge & Toll Authority (KABATA)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Presented  an overview  of  the  Knik  Arm                                                            
Bridge & Toll Authority (KABATA).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN HEMENWAY, Chief Financial Officer                                                                                         
Knik Arm Bridge & Toll Authority (KABATA)                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented  and answered questions  during an                                                            
overview of the Knik Arm Bridge & Toll Authority (KABATA).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LEVY, Executive Director                                                                                                  
Alaska Mobility Coalition                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Presented  a PowerPoint  Overview  of  the                                                            
Alaska Mobility Coalition (AMC).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER   BECKMANN,   President,   Alaska   Mobility   Coalition;                                                              
Executive Director, Central Area Rural Transit                                                                                  
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  during  the   Alaska  Mobility                                                            
Coalition's presentation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BILL HERMAN, Senior Trust Program Officer                                                                                       
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA);                                                                                   
Member, Governor's Coordinated Transportation Task Force (GCTTF)                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  during  the   Alaska  Mobility                                                            
Coalition's presentation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MILLIE RYAN, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  during  the   Alaska  Mobility                                                            
Coalition's presentation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JEFF OTTESEN, Chair                                                                                                             
Governor's   Coordinated   Transportation  Task   Force   (GCTTF);                                                              
Director, Division of Program Development                                                                                       
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified and answered questions  during the                                                            
Alaska Mobility Coalition's presentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH GRAY, Acting Borough Manager                                                                                          
Matanuska-Susitna Borough (MSB)                                                                                                 
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  presentation on  the                                                            
Port MacKenzie Rail Extension (PMRE).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RICK MYSTROM, Economic Development Advisor                                                                                      
Matanuska-Susitna Borough (MSB)                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  presentation on  the                                                            
Port MacKenzie Rail Extension (PMRE).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JOE PERKINS, Executive Project Manager                                                                                          
Port MacKenzie Rail Extension (PMRE)                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  during the  presentation on  the                                                            
Port MacKenzie Rail Extension (PMRE).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:01:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PEGGY WILSON  called the  joint  meeting of  the House  and                                                            
Senate Transportation  Standing Committees  to order at  1:01 p.m.                                                              
Present  at  the call  to  order  from  the Senate  were  Senators                                                              
Kookesh, Huggins, Menard,  Thomas, and Egan.  Present  at the call                                                              
to order  from the  House Transportation  Standing Committee  were                                                              
Representatives  P.  Wilson and  Feige.  Representative  Petersen,                                                              
Gruenberg,  Munoz  and  Pruitt  arrived  as  the  meeting  was  in                                                              
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  KNIK ARM BRIDGE & TOLL AUTHORITY                                                                           
       PRESENTATION(S):  KNIK ARM BRIDGE & TOLL AUTHORITY                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:01:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the first order  of business would                                                              
be  a  presentation  by  the Knik  Arm  Bridge  &  Toll  Authority                                                              
(KABATA).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:04:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  FOSTER, P.E.,  Chair, Knik  Arm Bridge  & Toll  Authority                                                              
(KABATA),  began  by  introducing  the  Knik  Arm  Bridge  &  Toll                                                              
Authority's (KABATA)  Chief Financial Officer, Kevin  P. Hemenway.                                                              
He remarked  on two  milestone events,  which  were a no  jeopardy                                                              
determination  related  to the  impacts  of  this project  on  the                                                              
Beluga  whales;  and  the  record of  decision  from  the  Federal                                                              
Highway  Administration  (FHWA)   in  mid-December  with  a  build                                                              
alternative.     He  characterized  the  record   of  decision  as                                                              
basically the authority to proceed with the project.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:05:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER  turned to  his  presentation  on  the Knik  Arm  Toll                                                              
Bridge.   He  asked  why the  Knik  Arm toll  bridge  is good  for                                                              
Alaska  [slide 2].   He answered  that this  bridge would  connect                                                              
Alaska's  infrastructure, supports  resource development,  provide                                                              
jobs  and  support  economic growth,  and  create  an  alternative                                                              
corridor for  safety.   Currently, the Glenn  Highway is  the only                                                              
traffic  corridor north  of  Anchorage and  this  would provide  a                                                              
second corridor.   Additionally, the  toll bridge would  help fund                                                              
future  statewide transportation  needs since  toll revenue  could                                                              
be  used for  any  Title 23  project,  ranging  from Ketchikan  to                                                              
marine highway needs or for airports.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER  described the immediate  benefits [slide 3],  which he                                                              
characterized   as  a  true   economic  stimulus.     This   is  a                                                              
public/private partnership,  he stated.  The capital  will be "put                                                              
up"  by a  private  party  investor,  resulting in  a  partnership                                                              
between the state  and this investor, with the  construction funds                                                              
supplied  by the  private sector.    He related  that the  project                                                              
represents about  $700 million in infrastructure  and would result                                                              
in 5,000 construction-related  jobs.  It will take  about three to                                                              
four years  to complete  the project and  about 10,000  people can                                                              
rely  on this  project  for  their jobs,  he  added.   The  public                                                              
benefits include  $326 million  in cost savings  on lower  cost of                                                              
freight  shipped from  the Port  of Anchorage  to the Interior  in                                                              
the  next  ten years.    This  figure represents  labor  and  fuel                                                              
savings, but  not capitalization  of assets  so the total  savings                                                              
could be  larger.  He  also estimated savings  of $303  million to                                                              
commuters  in fuel  and time  savings.   He  related fuel  savings                                                              
alone are estimated at $150,000.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER  pointed   out  that  the  state's   new  correctional                                                              
facility  is  located  approximately   75  miles  from  the  court                                                              
facility in Anchorage,  but once the bridge is in  place the total                                                              
trip  mileage would  be  reduced to  12 miles.    He projected  an                                                              
overall  reduction  of  1,900,000  fewer  metric  tons  of  carbon                                                              
emissions.   He  also  projected  $30 million  savings  associated                                                              
with  the Goose  Creek Correctional  Center for  staff and  vendor                                                              
supplier's  transportation,   but  the  savings  noted   does  not                                                              
include   visitor   transportation   costs.     Additionally,   as                                                              
previously  stated, the  bridge  would provide  an alternative  to                                                              
Glenn  Highway for  safety, pointed  out  current routine  monthly                                                              
closures and  weekly delays  are encountered.   The project  would                                                              
connect the Port  of Anchorage and Port MacKenzie  to better serve                                                              
the state and  also would tie together the  state's transportation                                                              
network.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER  referred to the base  case traffic forecast,  which he                                                              
said was derived  from several sources, including  consulting with                                                              
a third  party consultant,  the DOT&PF's  traffic review,  and the                                                              
FHWA's  oversight.    He  related   the  forecast  assumes  bridge                                                              
completion in 2015 and the toll opening [slide 4].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER characterized  the model as a fair  representation.  He                                                              
explained the red  portion of the graph represents  the commercial                                                              
use,  while the  blue portion  represents commuters.   He  pointed                                                              
out  the  flat  portion indicates  when  the  bridge  would  reach                                                              
maximum capacity.   He said that while additional  traffic volumes                                                              
could  be  accommodated  adding additional  traffic  volumes  risk                                                              
overloading the  system.   He indicated when  that happens,  as it                                                              
has occurred  on the Glenn Highway  and other highways,  the extra                                                              
traffic "just chokes it."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:10:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER estimated  the projected toll authority [slide  5].  He                                                              
related  toll gross  revenue  earnings  are anticipated  at  $12.1                                                              
billion over  a 60-year time period,  based on the  projected 2015                                                              
opening of the toll road.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER  detailed the  toll facility  revenue as a  "waterfall"                                                              
flow of  funds [slide  6].  He  explained that the  private/public                                                              
partnership  is based on  an availability  fee payment  structure.                                                              
His analogy  was that it was  like building a  high-rise building.                                                              
In the initial  year, the lease payment and  availability payments                                                              
would  be made  while  the gross  revenue  would  pay the  private                                                              
partner, followed  by KABATA recovering operating  costs, reserve,                                                              
replenishment, project  improvements, other transportation  needs.                                                              
He  explained reserve  replenishment  is revenue  that rolls  back                                                              
into  the  state  and  can  be used  for  Title  23  services.  He                                                              
anticipated that  by approximately 10 years into  the project, the                                                              
Ingra/Gambell connection  would be built from project  funds.  The                                                              
bridge  is  a four-lane  structure,  but  the initial  deck  would                                                              
consist of  two lanes  and as  traffic demands  the deck  would be                                                              
expanded to  a four-lane structure,  which is why  embankments and                                                              
other components are being built to accommodate four lanes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER  discussed the  projected net revenue  [slide 7].   The                                                              
blue  on  the  graph represents  the  operating  cost,  the  green                                                              
represents  toll net revenue,  or profit,  and red represents  the                                                              
availability payment.   The chart figures  are based on  a 35 year                                                              
private/public  partnership  model.     The  blue  represents  the                                                              
operating  cost   of  the   facility  after  the   post-concession                                                              
contractual  arrangement  is  completed.   While  the  contractual                                                              
arrangement could  continue, the  model is based  on the  first 35                                                              
years,  he said.   The revenue,  depicted in  green, indicates  $8                                                              
billion in  net revenue  over 60 years,  which would  be available                                                              
to use  for other transportation  needs.  The blue  represents the                                                              
funds for operation  and maintenance improvements, as  well as for                                                              
any expansions required.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:13:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER  turned to a photo  of the proposed crossing  [slide 7]                                                              
and explained that  questions have been raised  about the location                                                              
of the crossing.   He characterized the selected  crossing spot as                                                              
the ideal location  due to air space constraints  at Elmendorf Air                                                              
Force  Base.    The  crossing  also  represents  a  good  location                                                              
geologically,  noting that the  bridge structure  would be  set on                                                              
consolidated till and not on clay or mud.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER explained  the bathymetry  and  tides [slide  9].   He                                                              
then  played an  animated slide  which  discussed the  view.   The                                                              
crossing  would  span  14,000  feet,   with  the  proposed  bridge                                                              
comprised of  8,200 feet, and  embankments would total  6,000 feet                                                              
of embankment, including both sides of the span.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:15:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER provided  a view of the project during  the late season                                                              
1 [slide  10].  He  explained that the  U.S. Coast  Guard requires                                                              
bridge clearance at  high tide to equal 50 feet of  clearance.  He                                                              
remarked  that the  clearance at  low tide  ranges from  75 to  80                                                              
feet depending on tides.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER  discussed  the  oscillated  drilled  shaft  operation                                                              
[slide 11].  He described the  operation, relating its  low impact                                                              
compared to  the driven pile method.   He remarked that  the state                                                              
recently  used this  system on the  Tanana River  crossing  on the                                                              
Tok Highway.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER  showed  a  photo  slide  which  showed  the  proposed                                                              
project late  in season 2,  and he pointed  out some of  the piles                                                              
and caps mid-span [slide 12].                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:16:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER  showed an  animated  photo  slide that  depicted  the                                                              
foundation wrap up  for season 2.  He related  that the foundation                                                              
is  shown  in  place  in this  slide  but  is  awaiting  the  deck                                                              
placement.    The  proposed  plan  also  includes  pedestrian  and                                                              
bicycle lanes [slide 13].                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER reiterated  the final  bride  is planned  as a  14,000                                                              
foot crossing.   He  played an  animated slide  that depicted  the                                                              
future,  four-lane Knik  Arm Crossing  [slide 14].   He  described                                                              
the property and alignment of the port expansion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:18:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  asked for  projected toll amount  and for                                                              
the number of years before the project would "break even."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER answered  that  the initial  toll  is based  on a  fee                                                              
amount of  $5 each way per  passenger, while the  semi-tractor fee                                                              
would be  based on the  number of axles  or weight.   He projected                                                              
that  by  year  three  the toll  revenue  would  exceed  the  toll                                                              
revenue requirements.   He anticipated that the  requested reserve                                                              
fund request would cover costs during the initial years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  asked   how  KABATA  plans  to  convince                                                              
Government Hill residents  to allow the plan to move  forward.  He                                                              
recalled  public  comments  were  largely  in  opposition  to  the                                                              
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER responded  that initially  the  port project  included                                                              
plans for  an open cut,  but the plan was  changed to add  "a lid"                                                              
with a greenbelt  on top.  He elaborated that  the Government Hill                                                              
portion  requires  three  properties  in  order to  proceed.    He                                                              
offered his  belief that at  the end of  the project,  although he                                                              
was  uncertain   what  residents  will  think,  the   impacts  are                                                              
significantly  minimized,  and would  include  a  cut with  buried                                                              
tunnel and a greenbelt on top of it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  recalled the  engineering work  Mr. Foster  did at                                                              
Red Dog  Mine, which  she said  is the  largest zinc  mine in  the                                                              
world.   She commended his lead  engineering work.   She mentioned                                                              
that  the  KABATA  is  currently  working on  a  bill  which  will                                                              
contain the reserve fund request.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:21:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER acknowledged  that Senator  Menard and  Representative                                                              
Neuman will  introduce the  bill for  the reserve  fund.   He said                                                              
that  if the  reserve fund  bill  passes, the  project would  have                                                              
funding  for the  initial  years  for the  availability  payments.                                                              
Additional  funds would  not be  necessary for  the first  five or                                                              
six years.   He explained  that the toll  revenue would  repay the                                                              
fund at  about year three.   Within the  first five or  six years,                                                              
and  money taken  from the  fund  would be  completely repaid  and                                                              
excess  revenue, as  previously  stated, would  be deposited  into                                                              
the fund  for Title 23 services  statewide.  He stressed  that the                                                              
reserve fund  is required  in order  for KABATA's private  partner                                                              
to demonstrate  the ability  to make  availability payments,  when                                                              
"things are tight."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:23:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN HEMENWAY,  Chief Financial Officer,  Knik Arm Bridge  & Toll                                                              
Authority  (KABATA), explained  the  main purpose  of the  reserve                                                              
fund is to enhance  the credit for the project,  which would allow                                                              
the  private sector  to  make a  lower availability  payment  bid.                                                              
The  bids will  be  the lowest  availability  payment between  the                                                              
competing  parties.   The objective  is to obtain  the most  value                                                              
for the public  and citizens of  Alaska from the transaction.   He                                                              
related his  background includes a  30-year career in  the private                                                              
sector  in public  accountancy as  well  as having  served as  the                                                              
chief  financial  officer  of two  publicly  traded  corporations,                                                              
including  Alaska  Communications Systems.    He  related that  in                                                              
1999 he  came to Alaska  and has  since completed several  billion                                                              
dollars in transactions.   He offered his belief  that the project                                                              
is necessary  in Alaska  and he  would like  his children  to come                                                              
back and have the same opportunities afforded him.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:24:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P.  WILSON asked whether the  figure for the fund  is known,                                                              
or if ongoing financial requests will be necessary.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HEMENWAY  explained  the importance  to  demonstrate  to  the                                                              
private sector  that funds have  been appropriated.   He described                                                              
the other  piece is that  if the fund  drops below  certain level,                                                              
determined by  contractual procurement,  it would be  necessary to                                                              
replenish  the fund with  additional appropriations.   He  further                                                              
explained   this    represents   a   standard    backstop   credit                                                              
enhancement.   He described the  advantage, referring back  to the                                                              
graphics  that showed  the availability  payments,  and the  lower                                                              
level of operating  costs once the state takes it  over. Using the                                                              
reserve fund  means the state can  get the transaction  at a lower                                                              
cost of capital  and could take full ownership at  year 35 instead                                                              
of 50 to  60 years out, which  is how long it would  probably take                                                              
without some type  of credit enhancement.  Otherwise,  the private                                                              
sector would  have a  higher cost of  capital, a higher  borrowing                                                              
rate, and higher equity expectation, he said.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:26:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FEIGE referred back  to the  slide of  the planned                                                              
project and inquired  as to whether the engineers  have considered                                                              
the  depositional  characteristics,  given  the  tremendous  tidal                                                              
flow in  the area.   He pointed  out the  two abutments  on either                                                              
end of the  bridge would project  out into the water flow  of Knik                                                              
Arm.   He  expressed concern  that  given the  high sediment  flow                                                              
that deposition would  occur.  He further wondered  how this might                                                              
affect  the  dredging  requirements  at  Port  MacKenzie  and  the                                                              
ability of  ships to maneuver.   He pointed out that the  shoal is                                                              
already encroaching  on the Port  of Anchorage, which  he surmised                                                              
may have been affected by the construction of Port MacKenzie.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HEMENWAY  responded that  the  U.S.  Corps of  Engineers  has                                                              
developed  a  model  of  Cook Inlet.    He  advised  members  that                                                              
KABATA's staff  has been  studying effects  on this structure  due                                                              
to the  expansion at  both ports.   He speculated the  possibility                                                              
that the  total bridge span  may increase to minimize  deposition,                                                              
but stated  KABATA is still  in the process  of modeling  and fine                                                              
tuning  with  respect  to  engineering.   He  reported  the  model                                                              
KABATA  ran three  months ago  showed  that the  bridge would  not                                                              
have  an   impact  on  either  port.     He  commented   that  the                                                              
Municipality   of  Anchorage  (MOA)   and  the   Matanuska-Susitna                                                              
Borough (MSB)  have also  expressed concern  whether this  project                                                              
would  require additional  dredging  needs.   The National  Marine                                                              
Fisheries Service  (NMFS) requested KABATA also  consider possible                                                              
expansion of the  bridge structure and reducing  the overall fill.                                                              
Currently the  KABATA has  been weighing  all parameters,  from an                                                              
engineering  perspective to  optimize design  to mitigate  impacts                                                              
to  Beluga whales  and sediment  deposits  or additional  dredging                                                              
concerns, he said.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:28:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS asked  for clarification on how  the public/private                                                              
partnership  would work.    He related  his  understanding of  the                                                              
necessity for  up-front funding.   He said  he does not  object to                                                              
the  state taking  a lead  in funding.    He related  that in  his                                                              
experience,  costs are  usually  underestimated  and benefits  are                                                              
overestimated.  He  expressed interest in knowing  how any overrun                                                              
costs  would affect  the  partnership and  who  would cover  those                                                              
costs.   Additionally,  he  asked  for  the reason  for  increased                                                              
traffic flow  and whether it  would be  due to people  become more                                                              
interested  in  the  crossing  or  if  projections  are  based  on                                                              
population estimates over a 25-year period.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:30:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HEMENWAY  explained how  the public/private partnership  would                                                              
operate.   He highlighted  that the  state would retain  ownership                                                              
of  toll  revenue,  which  would  be  used  to  make  availability                                                              
payments to the  private partner.  The procurement  is the minimum                                                              
availability  payment  in  an  otherwise  compliant  proposal,  he                                                              
related.   The project  functions that  the private partner  would                                                              
carry out  would be  to design, build,  finance, and  maintain the                                                              
facility over  the term of  the concession to certain  performance                                                              
standards,  which would  be contractually  set.   One  performance                                                              
standard criteria  used was the requirement to  build to technical                                                              
specifications  and includes operating  and maintenance  costs for                                                              
the structures.   The  vast majority  of the construction  related                                                              
risk would  be "laid  off" contractually  to the private  partner,                                                              
he said.   The constructability  reviews indicate a three  to four                                                              
year construction  phase.   However, penalty  provisions  would be                                                              
imposed  on the availability  payment  if the  project were  to be                                                              
delayed  or the  roadway  was not  built to  standards.   The  bid                                                              
proposal is  based on the  maximum availability payment,  assuming                                                              
the partner  meets  its contractual  obligations.   At the  end of                                                              
the  term,  provisions  will  include  "hand  back"  requirements,                                                              
which  outline   the  requirements   for  the  condition   of  the                                                              
facility.   These provisions  are typically  anticipated at  an 80                                                              
percent  for a  new, well  maintained-level  facility, he  stated.                                                              
Additionally, since  the partner will be motivated  by profit, the                                                              
partner  will  work  to  be  very   efficient,  he  stated.    The                                                              
contractual performance  standards set the  construction standards                                                              
and indicate  how the  facility will  be operated and  maintained.                                                              
Certain kinds  of risk are  not "laid off"  such as  archaeo paleo                                                              
costs, but  typically cost overrun  with respect to  the partner's                                                              
subcontractor are  "laid" onto the  private partner, unless  it is                                                              
caused by KABATA or the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:32:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HEMENWAY offered  that a  number of  components comprise  the                                                              
traffic  and  revenue  study.    The  KABATA  hired  Wilbur  Smith                                                              
Associates,  which was  selected  because it  is one  of the  best                                                              
firms in the industry.   Of the 20 "green" field  or start-up toll                                                              
roads completed  in the last 10  years, this firm has  averaged 96                                                              
percent of the "base  case" traffic.  He remarked  the company has                                                              
been highly  accurate.   He noted  only one  of its projects  fell                                                              
below  75  percent  of  the  "base  case"  traffic.  Wilbur  Smith                                                              
Associates  has conducted  an investment  grade  traffic and  toll                                                              
revenue  study,  which  rating  agencies  on Wall  Street  use  to                                                              
determine whether to  invest in a project.  He  characterized this                                                              
study as  a high quality,  high level  traffic and revenue  study.                                                              
The study is  also updated periodically for population  growth.  A                                                              
number of  population studies also  indicate the region  will have                                                              
a  population  growth of  150,000  to  250,000  over the  next  20                                                              
years.   The  main  public  policy case  for  this  project is  to                                                              
accommodate  population  growth  in  the  region as  well  as  the                                                              
movement of freight  and to open up economic  opportunities in the                                                              
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:34:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  recalled that  KABATA  was created  with                                                              
federal funds.  He asked how much funding remains.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FOSTER answered  that approximately  $65  million remains  of                                                              
the  roughly  $200  million  in  federal  appropriations  made  to                                                              
KABATA.    He  reported  that  Governor  Murkowski  reappropriated                                                              
about  $100  million  to  other  projects.    He  anticipated  the                                                              
remaining  funds should  be  "more  than enough"  to  pay for  the                                                              
final  permits, solicitation  for  a public/private  partner,  and                                                              
for KABATA's  operating costs.   The reserve fund's purpose  is to                                                              
provide availability and not for KABATA's operating costs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOSTER,  in response  to Chair P.  Wilson, stated  that KABATA                                                              
has requested $150 million from the legislature.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:36:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:36 p.m. to 1:37 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA MOBILITY COALITION                                                                                  
          PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA MOBILITY COALITION                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
1:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR P.  WILSON announced that  the next order of  business would                                                              
be a presentation by the Alaska Mobility Coalition.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:38:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID LEVY, Executive  Director, Alaska Mobility  Coalition (AMC),                                                              
began  by  introducing  Jennifer  Beckmann  as the  AMC  Board  of                                                              
Director's president  and the executive  director of  Central Area                                                              
Rural Transit.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVY related  he would  speak  about the  AMC, including  its                                                              
public  awareness  campaign, its  statewide  issues,  and its  two                                                              
legislative priorities [slide 2].                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:40:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY  reviewed the  AMC's mission  statement, which  he stated                                                              
as    achieving    mobility    through    community    appropriate                                                              
transportation services.   Since 2002, the AMC has  been a private                                                              
not-for-profit   membership  organization   that  represents   and                                                              
advocates  for  public  and  community   transportation  statewide                                                              
[slide  3].     The  AMC   provides  weekly  updates,   a  monthly                                                              
newsletter,  an annual  report as  well as  maintaining the  AMC's                                                              
website and its Facebook page [slide 4].                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY referred  to the list of AMC's membership,  relating that                                                              
it has  nearly 100  member organizations in  the state  [slides 5-                                                              
6].                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:41:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY  reported on the  AMC's public awareness  campaign, which                                                              
began last  year [slide 7].   One of its  goals has been to  put a                                                              
human  face to  public  and  community transportation  in  Alaska.                                                              
This  slide  depicts  newspaper  advertisements  that  it  ran  in                                                              
Anchorage,   Fairbanks    and   the   Kenai   Peninsula.       The                                                              
transportation  system  provides  seven million  rides  statewide.                                                              
He  characterized each  ride as  a  story.   He described  several                                                              
"stories"   of  reasons  passengers   use  public   transportation                                                              
including  an  isolated senior  who  wants  to  go to  the  senior                                                              
center to  play bingo, a newly  employed person who needs  to ride                                                              
to work,  or a  mom who needs  to transport  her kids  to daycare.                                                              
He identified the  website address as www.goodgoingalaska.com  for                                                              
members to  find additional information  about AMC.   He mentioned                                                              
the bus  advertisements (ads) the  AMC has placed in  buses stress                                                              
the  importance  of  public transportation  and  show  how  public                                                              
transportation helps people live independently [slide 8].                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEVY also  mentioned the series of radio  advertising AMC ran,                                                              
which  used  local   people  to  talk  about  their   stories  and                                                              
highlighted  reasons people  have  for using  buses, including  to                                                              
attend  local  events  and  commute to  and  from  the  Matanuska-                                                              
Susitna Valley to Anchorage [slide 9].                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:43:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEVY  highlighted  the two  legislative  priorities  the  AMC                                                              
supports [slides  10-11]. He reported  that HB 131  was introduced                                                              
last  week, which  would create  the Alaska  Community and  Public                                                              
Advisory  Board to  provide a  specific  role for  the state  with                                                              
respect to  public transportation.   He noted  the photo  in slide                                                              
11 is  of the new  Juneau Transit Center.   He commended  the City                                                              
and Borough of Juneau  (CBJ) in its efforts to  better provide and                                                              
coordinate transportation.   He stressed the importance  of public                                                              
and  community transportation.   The  second bill  would create  a                                                              
State  Partnership  in Public  Transportation  in  Alaska, and  he                                                              
thanked  Senator  Kookesh for  his  efforts  taken on  this  bill.                                                              
Alaska  is one of  three states  that does  not provide  operating                                                              
funds  for  public transportation  so  the  burden has  fallen  on                                                              
local  communities to  do  so, ranging  from  local government  to                                                              
tribal investments,  but not the  state of Alaska. He  related his                                                              
understanding  this bill  would  be introduced  shortly and  urged                                                              
members to support it.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:47:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER  BECKMANN,  President,  Alaska  Mobility  Coalition;  and                                                              
Executive  Director,  Central  Area   Rural  Transit,  echoed  Mr.                                                              
Levy's sentiments  on transportation  needs.   She asked  to speak                                                              
primarily  on behalf  of the  Central Area  Rural Transit  (CART),                                                              
which  provides  60,000  public   transportation  rides  per  year                                                              
serving  the  central  Kenai  Peninsula.    The  majority  of  its                                                              
passengers  travel  to  work  or  medical  appointments  or  other                                                              
support  services  or  for  shopping  or  recreational  needs  and                                                              
activities.     She  concurred   with  Mr.  Levy,   stressing  the                                                              
organization would  also like the state play an  active role since                                                              
the services  are needed  ones, that CART  serves clients  have no                                                              
other  options to  rely  on for  a  ride.   She  urged members  to                                                              
invest in public transportation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:49:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:49 p.m. to 1:50 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:50:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL HERMAN,  Senior Trust Program  Officer, Alaska  Mental Health                                                              
Trust  Authority  (AMHTA);  and   Member,  Governor's  Coordinated                                                              
Transportation Task  Force (GCTTF), stated that the  Alaska Mental                                                              
Health Trust  Authority (AMHTA)  has been  working on  coordinated                                                              
transportation  needs  since the  trust  was formulated  in  1985.                                                              
Each year  the AMHTA has  advocacy summits  and the two  topics as                                                              
prime topics to  coalesce groups that represent  the beneficiaries                                                              
was  MEDICAID  issue   and  the  other  is  the   coordination  of                                                              
transportation  issues,  which remains  one  of the  AMHTA's  high                                                              
priorities.    He commented  that  he  also  serves as  the  trust                                                              
designee on the  Governor's Coordinated Transportation  Task Force                                                              
(GCTTF).  He  expressed his excitement the governor  is interested                                                              
in finding  efficiencies that  coordination of services  provides.                                                              
Since   1996,  the   AMHTA   has   been  working   to   coordinate                                                              
transportation  services  for  a   wide  variety  of  agencies  in                                                              
various communities  that  offer transportation  to clients.   The                                                              
AMHTA  helps  providers  coalesce around  coordinated  system  and                                                              
pool vans to  provide better and efficient use.   He characterized                                                              
this  as  a  "win-win"  situation.   In  2009,  the  AMC  surveyed                                                              
Alaskans  and found  94 percent  supported pooling  transportation                                                              
services.   He  offered  his belief  that  the  GCTTF can  examine                                                              
state   government   transportation   funding  streams   to   find                                                              
efficiencies for combined rides and funding sources.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:53:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HERMAN  reported that  AMHTA beneficiaries  represent  five to                                                              
eight  percent  of  Alaskans,  including  the  mentally  ill,  the                                                              
developmentally   disabled,  those   suffering  from   Alzheimer's                                                              
disease and  related dementia,  and chronic  alcoholism.   He said                                                              
that  public transportation  has  been the  key  means this  group                                                              
uses to get  to work, to travel  to meet their health  care needs,                                                              
and  to   provide  hope  in  their   lives.    He   estimated,  in                                                              
conjunction   with   Department   of   Transportation   &   Public                                                              
Facilities  (DOT&PF)'s assistance,  trust beneficiaries  represent                                                              
approximately 46  percent of the  ridership in all  transportation                                                              
systems.    In the  past  15  years,  the AMHTA  has  provided  $5                                                              
million  in capital  funding,  which has  been  matched with  some                                                              
state general  fund.  He  pointed out the  AMHTA works to  use its                                                              
funds  as  a catalyst  for  change  rather  than to  achieve  base                                                              
operating  budget costs.   Often,  AMHTA funds  are used to  match                                                              
federal  transit  dollars.   Finally,  he  estimated that  the  46                                                              
percent  mobility  users  represent  about  seven  million  rides,                                                              
which  benefits  a  large  number  of  residents  statewide.    He                                                              
further  estimated  trust  beneficiaries  take 3.2  million  rides                                                              
alone.   He  strongly supported  the  operating subsidy  currently                                                              
being considered.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MILLIE   RYAN,   Executive   Director,   Governor's   Council   on                                                              
Disabilities  and Special  Education,  Anchorage, Alaska,  related                                                              
she  is  one  of the  founding  members  of  the  Alaska  Mobility                                                              
Coalition  (AMC).    She  stated   she  serves  as  its  executive                                                              
director   and  offered   reasons   the  Governor's   Council   on                                                              
Disabilities  and  Special  Education   is  interested  in  public                                                              
transportation.    She  related  when the  council  has  conducted                                                              
surveys  or during  its public  comment period,  that people  have                                                              
reported  they   find  it  hard   to  get  to  work,   to  medical                                                              
appointments, and become  part of the community.   Many people end                                                              
up  lonely and  isolated she  said.   She reported  that the  2010                                                              
Harris  poll,  which  is  conducted   annually,  found  huge  gaps                                                              
between   people    with   disabilities    and   people    without                                                              
disabilities,   including  transportation.     Additionally,   the                                                              
Transportation Equity  Network conducted a study,  which indicates                                                              
that  transportation is  an  economic driver,  since  it not  only                                                              
provides  a means  for people  to get  to work,  but affords  them                                                              
opportunities  to  get to  other  places  such  as to  stores  for                                                              
shopping.   She  reported that  studies show  approximately $6  in                                                              
economic  benefit is  returned for  every dollar  spent on  public                                                              
transportation.     She   offered   the  Governor's   Council   on                                                              
Disabilities and  Special Education support for the  creation of a                                                              
sustainable  state   transportation  trust  fund.     She  thanked                                                              
Senator  Thomas  and  Representative  P.  Wilson  for  introducing                                                              
bills  to  accomplish  this.    She  concluded  that  the  council                                                              
believes  this  will  offer  a sustainable  source  of  funds  for                                                              
operation.   She reported that a  number of different  sources are                                                              
available  for capital  outlay  for  transportation  needs, but  a                                                              
source of funds to operate the vehicles is also necessary.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF OTTESEN,  Chair, Governor's  Coordinated Transportation  Task                                                              
Force  (GCTTF);   Director,  Division   of  Program   Development,                                                              
Department  of   Transportation  &  Public   Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                              
stated that he was  speaking today as the Chair  of the Governor's                                                              
Coordinated Transportation  Task Force (GCTTF). The  rural transit                                                              
program  that Department  of  Transportation  & Public  Facilities                                                              
(DOT&PF)  administers for  the state  is  under his  purview.   He                                                              
said  that today  he is  "wearing a  separate hat."   He  reported                                                              
that  last February  he  presented the  GCTTF's  findings to  this                                                              
committee.   Last July,  Governor Parnell  reappointed the  GCTTF,                                                              
added  additional  task  force members,  and  assigned  the  GCTTF                                                              
additional  tasks.    He  reported that  currently  the  GCTTF  is                                                              
comprised  of a  12-member  task force,  with  an additional  four                                                              
members serving as  ex officio non-voting members.   He introduced                                                              
some   of  the   GCTTF's  staff;   Marsha   Bracke,  the   GCTTF's                                                              
facilitator, and  J. Eric Taylor  of his staff.   Additionally, he                                                              
mentioned  members,   Bill  Herman  and  Jennifer   Beckmann,  who                                                              
previously  testified, and  Camille Ferguson,  who represents  the                                                              
Sitka Tribe of Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:59:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN  commented that  various not-for-profit  organizations                                                              
and other organizations  that provide transit service  should work                                                              
in  unison  and  in  concert  to reduce  the  number  of  vans  on                                                              
highways carrying  a fraction of  people who need  transportation.                                                              
Currently,  seniors are  not authorized  to ride  in vans  for the                                                              
disabled,  which is  one  policy that  needs  to be  changed.   He                                                              
reported  that   former  President   George  W.  Bush   signed  an                                                              
executive  order requiring  coordination  among federal  agencies.                                                              
He mentioned  that 60  different types  of transportation  funding                                                              
support the  federal agencies.  He  pointed out that some  of this                                                              
funding  has  been  transferred  to  state  government,  which  is                                                              
tasked  with coordination  of services.   The  GCTTF's goal  is to                                                              
provide services  more efficiently.  He related  a scenario, which                                                              
described  an   instance  describing   issues  that   affect  some                                                              
disabled rural Alaskans  who arrive in Alaska's  cities and cannot                                                              
acquire  transportation  to accommodate  wheelchairs.    Sometimes                                                              
the  disabled person  has had  to  use an  ambulance to  get to  a                                                              
medical appointment.   He remarked that the cost  to use emergency                                                              
vehicles is  alarming.  He  commented that  Alaska has one  of the                                                              
fastest growing  senior populations  in the  nation.   Many people                                                              
arrived  here in the  1970s and  are now  reaching senior  citizen                                                              
ages.  Additionally,  Alaska has one of the highest  per capita of                                                              
veteran's in  its population, many  of whom have medical  needs as                                                              
a result of injuries  acquired during their military  service.  He                                                              
reiterated  the multiple funding  sources and  the need  to ensure                                                              
coordination and consolidation of transportation services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:01:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN reported  that the GCTTF is currently  gathering data,                                                              
relating that last  year, the GCTTF had difficulty  in identifying                                                              
and  quantifying  the number  of  people who  need  transportation                                                              
services since  overlap exists.   He clarified  that a  person may                                                              
be a  senior who is  also disabled.   The GCTTF is  also assessing                                                              
the  types  of  needs.    He  reviewed  the  schedule  of  GCTTF's                                                              
upcoming  meetings: February  2  in Juneau,  May  3 in  Fairbanks,                                                              
July 28 in  Kodiak, and October  24 in Anchorage.  The  GCTTF will                                                              
report  to  the legislature  next  year  with  its findings.    In                                                              
further  response to  Chair P.  Wilson, he  repeated the  proposed                                                              
meeting dates,  and explained the  federal transit monies  flow to                                                              
the  Departments  of  Labor (DOL),  Military  &  Veterans  Affairs                                                              
(DMVA), and the DOT&PF.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS asked  whether the  GCTTF has  a protocol  for the                                                              
study for the demand or need.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN  answered that it  has a scope  of work along  with an                                                              
outline  of tasks  set out  in the  governor's  proclamation.   In                                                              
further  response to  Senator Thomas,  Mr.  Ottesen answered  that                                                              
GCTTF is to report  back to the governor by January  2012 with its                                                              
findings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FEIGE  related  his understanding  that  the  goal                                                              
seems   to   be  coordinating   transportation   largely   between                                                              
governmental agencies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OTTESEN answered  that the  GCTTF's role  is to  work at  the                                                              
local level with  all parties who provide  transportation, ranging                                                              
from not-for-profit  organizations providing senior  services to a                                                              
local  transit authority  and  encourage  them to  work  together.                                                              
Thus far, DOT&PF  has had some success, noting  some organizations                                                              
share   dispatch   services,   maintenance   costs,   or   vehicle                                                              
ownership.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FEIGE  asked  whether private  vehicles,  such  as                                                              
taxis  or  limousines  could  also  be  used.    He  recalled  the                                                              
problems  mentioned   earlier  in   which  rural  residents   were                                                              
compelled  to  use  an ambulance  to  transport  them  to  medical                                                              
appointments.   He said  it seemed that  if handicapped  vans were                                                              
available they could be coordinated to reduce costs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN agreed.   He elaborated that Representative  Feige has                                                              
identified  exactly the  type of  issue the  GCTTF has  discussed.                                                              
He remarked that  taxi cab companies often complain  of additional                                                              
costs  a lot  to equip  a  van to  accommodate  wheelchairs.   The                                                              
companies report  that they do not usually have  sufficient demand                                                              
to justify  the additional cost.   He offered his belief  that the                                                              
challenge  is to find  a way  to make  the specially equipped  van                                                              
available when it is needed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:06 p.m. to 2:08 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  PORT MACKENZIE RAIL EXTENSION                                                                              
        PRESENTATION(S):  PORT MACKENZIE RAIL EXTENSION                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
2:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR P. WILSON  announced that the final order  of business would                                                              
be a presentation on the Port MacKenzie Rail Extension.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH   GRAY,   Acting  Borough   Manager,   Matanuska-Susitna                                                              
Borough  (MSB),   began  by  stating   the  Port   MacKenzie  Rail                                                              
Extension project  is MSB's number  one priority.   She introduced                                                              
Alaska Railroad  Corporation's (ARRC) members present,  as well as                                                              
former  DOT&PF Commissioner  Perkins  and  former Anchorage  Mayor                                                              
Rick  Mystrom.    She reported  that  last  year  the  legislature                                                              
appropriated $35 million to the Port MacKenzie project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK  MYSTROM,  Economic  Development  Advisor,  Matanuska-Susitna                                                              
Borough (MSB), stated  that he is a former mayor  of Anchorage and                                                              
has been  working as an advisor  to the Matanuska-Susitna  Borough                                                              
(MSB).   He offered to show  a five-minute video  highlighting the                                                              
Port MacKenzie Rail Extension project.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM narrated  the  five-minute video,  which  illustrates                                                              
the 100-car rail  loop that connects Anchorage  to Port MacKenzie,                                                              
explaining  the  progress  on the  proposed  Port  MacKenzie  Rail                                                              
Extension Project.   He then offered  to summarize the  project by                                                              
presenting  a  PowerPoint  presentation  titled,  "Rail  Extension                                                              
Project, Economic  Benefits to the  Alaska Economy."   He referred                                                              
members to the printed PowerPoint overview in member's packets.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:16:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM  highlighted  what the Port  Mackenzie Rail  Extension                                                              
(PMRE)  project  means  to  Alaska's economy  [slides  1-2].    He                                                              
explained the  project would open  up Interior Alaska  to resource                                                              
development,  create a  development  corridor  along the  Railbelt                                                              
for exploration  and mineral extraction,  and help  facilitate the                                                              
development of  a world-class limestone deposit  between Livengood                                                              
and  Fairbanks.    The project  could  also  help  facilitate  the                                                              
development   of  a  cement   production   facility  in   or  near                                                              
Fairbanks,  dramatically  improve  the  world  competitiveness  of                                                              
Alaska's  coal, significantly  reduce  transportation and  staging                                                              
costs for  the proposed Alaska Natural  Gas Pipeline, and  help to                                                              
increase  employment   in  the   MSB,  the  Denali   Borough,  the                                                              
Fairbanks North  Star Borough (FNSB),  and Anchorage.   He related                                                              
that  Port MacKenzie  and  the PMRE  project  would work  together                                                              
[slide  3].     He  reported  that   Port  Mackenzie  is   a  bulk                                                              
commodities  port primarily  for the export  of minerals,  cement,                                                              
and coal.  It  also provides for the import,  storage, and staging                                                              
of bulk  fuel and pipe.   However, it is  not a consumer  goods or                                                              
container port like the Port of Anchorage, he said.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM related  that 14 square miles of  industrial land lies                                                              
adjacent  to  Port  MacKenzie,   which  represents  more  room  to                                                              
construct  a  project than  any  other  location  in Alaska.    He                                                              
pointed out that space is not available in Anchorage [slide 4].                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM  outlined the  advantages of  the PMRE project  [slide                                                              
5].  He  explained that the  PMRE project would provide  a shorter                                                              
rail distance  to tidewater  for  mineral exports  and that  it is                                                              
147 miles closer  than any other opportunity to  tidewater access.                                                              
It is  the only  Alaska port  with 100-rail  car  loop.  It  would                                                              
provide efficient  product transfer from train to  ship, and would                                                              
avoid  the   most  congested  portion   of  the   Alaska  Railroad                                                              
Corporation  (ARRC)   mainline.    Additionally,   Port  Mackenzie                                                              
offers  a  deep   draft  port  that  operates  year   round.    He                                                              
reiterated  the  advantages,  including  the 14  square  miles  of                                                              
industrial  area,  that  it  would  make  Alaska's  minerals  more                                                              
competitive  on  the world  market,  and  the PMRE  project  would                                                              
provide a great opportunity to grow our export economy.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM highlighted  Alaska's total  exports [slide  7].   He                                                              
reviewed  the statistics,  relating  that in  2007 Alaska's  total                                                              
exports  were at  $4 billion,  noting the  subsequent downturn  is                                                              
due to the  downturn in the world  economy.  He reported  that the                                                              
2010 exports  are rising and once  again projected at  $4 billion.                                                              
He  offered his  belief Alaska  has  the potential  to "grow  that                                                              
dramatically."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM pointed  out  a pie  chart  which describes  Alaska's                                                              
exports by  type [slide  8]. Seafood  represents Alaska's  biggest                                                              
export  at 50 percent  and minerals  represent  26 percent  of the                                                              
export  market.   He  offered  his  belief that  Alaska's  mineral                                                              
exports  represent  the  greatest opportunity  and  potential  for                                                              
growth.    He  reported Alaska's  current  exports  to  Japan  for                                                              
seafood,  minerals,   energy,  and  forest  products   total  $981                                                              
million.   He pointed out  that Japan is  a resource  poor country                                                              
and  it  needs  Alaska's  exports.    Therefore,  the  current  14                                                              
percent in mineral exports could increase dramatically.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM reported  that  in 2009,  Alaska's  exports to  China                                                              
totaled $586 million  [slide 10].  He remarked that  72 percent of                                                              
Alaska's  seafood  exports  are  destined  for  China.    Although                                                              
current only 15  percent of Alaska's mineral exports  are destined                                                              
for China, it  is cheaper for China to purchase  Alaska's minerals                                                              
since it does not have infrastructure in place.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM reported  that  in 2009,  Alaska's  exports to  Korea                                                              
total  $458 million,  of which  35 percent  are minerals,  largely                                                              
from coal.   He predicted Alaska's  mineral exports to  Korea will                                                              
continue to increase.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM  provided estimates of  the number of jobs  created by                                                              
the PMRE  project, as  reported from the  Institute of  Social and                                                              
Economic  Research at the  University of  Alaska Anchorage  (ISER)                                                              
and   HDR,  an   employee-owned   architecture,  engineering   and                                                              
consulting  firm [slide  12].   The  ISER and  HDR estimate  3,000                                                              
direct  jobs.    More importantly,  the  ISER  and  HDR  estimates                                                              
indirect  construction  and  private   development  jobs  will  be                                                              
created, including  4,000 ongoing, continuous private  sector jobs                                                              
over  the  next  17  years,  as   well  as  3,500  jobs  from  the                                                              
industrial development at Port Mackenzie [slide 13].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM outlined  funding  needs [slide  14].   He  explained                                                              
that  the PMRE's  funding request  is for  $55 million,  including                                                              
$10  million for  completion  of  the environmental  impact  study                                                              
(EIS) scheduled for  Fall 2010; $18 million for  constitutional of                                                              
the  truck  route  and  rail  loop,   and  $35  million  to  begin                                                              
construction  of  the rail  extension,  scheduled  for  2010-2011.                                                              
This  year  the governor  included  $20  million in  his  proposed                                                              
budget,  whereas last  year none  was proposed.   The  legislature                                                              
appropriated  $57 million,  and although  the governor vetoed  $22                                                              
million, $35  million in funding  remained.  He advised  that this                                                              
year an additional  $55 million is requested for the  PMRE to stay                                                              
under budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:24:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOE  PERKINS,  Executive  Project  Manager,  Port  MacKenzie  Rail                                                              
Extension  project  (PMRE),  began  by elaborating  on  the  three                                                              
legislative  appropriations [slide  14].   He  explained that  the                                                              
first  appropriation made  approximately  four years  ago was  $10                                                              
million  for completion  of  the EIS.   The  final  EIS should  be                                                              
completed  by March  2011, he  said.   The  EIS is  funded by  the                                                              
PMRE,   but   is   being  conducted   by   the   federal   Surface                                                              
Transportation  Board (STB) in  Washington D.C.   He also  advised                                                              
members that the  $10 million should be adequate to  cover the EIS                                                              
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:25:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   PERKINS  elaborated   on  $17   million  appropriation   for                                                              
construction of  the rail loop.   Currently,  the rail loop  is 70                                                              
percent constructed,  he said.   The PMRE  has contracted  out $10                                                              
million  in construction  contracts,  of which  the last  contract                                                              
will be completed  this summer.  The remaining funds  will be used                                                              
for design, environmental,  and other activities.   Last year, the                                                              
PMRE received  $35 million from  the legislature, which  will fund                                                              
the first  construction contracts for  the embankment on  the main                                                              
rail extension  line.   The main  rail extension  design has  been                                                              
completed.   He anticipated that the  $22 to $23 million  in funds                                                              
would  cover  5  to  6  miles  of  the  rail  line.    He  further                                                              
anticipated  that the  PMRE  is  within a  month  of settling  the                                                              
final rights-of-way  necessary  for the project.   He  anticipated                                                              
that the PMRE will  award the first contract as soon  as the final                                                              
EIS  is  completed.    He  commented   that  the  final  EIS  will                                                              
determine which  of the  three routes  under consideration  by the                                                              
STB will be selected.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PERKINS summarized  that the  total  state appropriations  to                                                              
date for the project  is currently at $62 million.   The PMRE will                                                              
need  an additional  $55  million in  funds  in order  to stay  on                                                              
schedule,   of  that  amount   $50  million   is  designated   for                                                              
construction contracts for embankments.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:28:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GRAY  referred members  to the  three-ring binder  in members'                                                              
packets.   She offered  her belief that  full funding  makes sense                                                              
[page 1].   The  project would  add up  to 4,000 permanent  mining                                                              
and logistics jobs  to the Alaska economy.  Currently,  the market                                                              
for  Alaska's minerals  exists.   The PMRE  project could  provide                                                              
most of  the construction materials  for the proposed  Susitna Dam                                                              
via  Port  Mackenzie.   Additionally,  the  proposed  natural  gas                                                              
pipeline project  could save a projected $100  million by shipping                                                              
heavy  materials  via  Port Mackenzie  as  compared  to  projected                                                              
costs by  using other ports.   Further,  bids are coming  in lower                                                              
due to  the downturn in  the U.S. economy,  so it makes  "perfect"                                                              
sense to fund the project now, she said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  stated he realized  the study was not  prepared by                                                              
PMRE but  he offered  his belief  that the  schedule of  mines and                                                              
employment seems "pretty  ambitious."  He asked for  a list of the                                                              
proposed mines during the PMRE's project timeframe.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GRAY  answered that she  would be happy  to provide  the list.                                                              
She  recalled that  the  Usibelli Coal  Mine,  Inc. has  expressed                                                              
interest  in transporting  coal,  as well  as  some interest  from                                                              
copper mines.   She reiterated her  willingness to provide  a list                                                              
of mines  that have expressed  interest, noting some  entities may                                                              
request confidentiality, she said.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  clarified that having  access to the  details will                                                              
be important  to convince people  of the project's viability.   He                                                              
related  his understanding  of  the  confidential  nature of  some                                                              
entities,  but   he  said   he  has  grown   weary  of   the  term                                                              
"proprietary."   He asked for  clarification of the  difference in                                                              
mileage  that  entities   would  have  using  Port   Mackenzie  as                                                              
compared to using Seward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM  responded that  Port Mackenzie  is 147 miles  shorter                                                              
route  as compared  to  the Seward  destination.    He recalled  a                                                              
seminar recently  he heard a quote,  which is: "Mineral  export is                                                              
transportation.  Transportation is mineral export."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:31:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  asked for the reason  that this project  would not                                                              
divert coal  destined for Seward,  especially given the  coal dust                                                              
issues at the Seward port due to the wind at that location.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MYSTROM  responded he would  defer to the Usibelli  Coal Mine,                                                              
Inc., but  held numerous  conversations and  was given  assurances                                                              
that  the mine  would continue  to  transport the  same amount  of                                                              
coal through Seward.   He said he was uncertain  of their reasons,                                                              
which might  be due  to its commitments  to Seward  or due  to its                                                              
infrastructure investments in Seward.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:32:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  asked for  clarification on the  last page  of the                                                              
PowerPoint   overview,  which   listed   three  cost   projections                                                              
totaling $156  million.   He asked  whether those costs  represent                                                              
the  final costs  or  if  other costs  would  be incurred  and  an                                                              
additional appropriation would be requested at a later date.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GRAY  answered that  the figures  represent an estimated  cost                                                              
of  the final  projected costs  to  complete the  PMRE project  to                                                              
connect to the Alaska Railroad Corporation's (ARRC) mainline.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM  recalled  an earlier  comment  related  to  projects                                                              
coming in over budget.   He stressed the PMRE is  one project that                                                              
is coming  in under  budget.   He reported  that the PMRE  project                                                              
was initially proposed  at $290 million dollar project  and is now                                                              
projected at  $218 million,  which is down  about $70  million, he                                                              
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  recalled  proposed spurs  from Fairbanks  to Delta                                                              
Junction and to  Livengood.  He asked whether  the project success                                                              
is contingent on the completion of these spurs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MYSTROM answered  that  it is  not.   He  explained that  the                                                              
Delta Junction proposed  spur was added as the  federal government                                                              
funded  the project,  but  he  acknowledged some  challenges  have                                                              
arisen related to  river projects.  With respect  to the Fairbanks                                                              
to  Livengood spur,  that  project  is not  included  in the  PMRE                                                              
project  but he  suggested the  Livengood spur  would probably  be                                                              
triggered by  the proposed Susitna  Dam project if the  project is                                                              
built.   He reiterated  that the proposed  spur from  Fairbanks to                                                              
Livengood is not included in this budget.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS remarked  he thought  the  ARRC will  be happy  to                                                              
hear  that the  spur  at  Delta has  been  funded  by the  federal                                                              
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:34:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  stressed that  the PMRE  is a statewide  project,                                                              
not  a Matanuska-Susitna  Borough  (MSB)  project.   He  commented                                                              
that the  PMRE project would be  "connecting the dots"  to a piece                                                              
of the  railroad.   He acknowledged  that while some  constituents                                                              
are not happy  about disruptions this project causes,  the overall                                                              
project is  important to  the state.   Thus  he supports  the PMRE                                                              
project, he said.   He recalled the MSB has received  support from                                                              
other communities  and asked  the MSB to  mention the  support for                                                              
the project, thus far.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. GRAY  referred members  to Tab  4 of  the binders in  members'                                                              
packets for a list  of support for the PMRE project  and to copies                                                              
of the resolutions  the MSB has received thus far.   She commented                                                              
that  resolutions  of  support   were  received  from  the  Denali                                                              
Borough,  the  Alaska  Railroad  Corporation,  the  Alaska  Miners                                                              
Association,  Inc., the  Greater  Fairbanks  Chamber of  Commerce,                                                              
the  Matanuska-Susitna Borough,  the  Greater  Wasilla Chamber  of                                                              
Commerce,  the City  of Palmer,  and the Alaska  State Chamber  of                                                              
Commerce, which lists it as its top infrastructure priority.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:37:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the committees,  the joint                                                              
meeting between  the House  Transportation Standing  Committee and                                                              
the   Senate  Transportation   Standing   Committee  meeting   was                                                              
adjourned at 2:37 p.m.                                                                                                          

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